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Friday, November 23, 2012

Late 18th Century French Fashions - Stockings




WEDNESDAY, MARCH 21, 2012


I adore vintage fashions and am especially intrigued by those items not usually seen in
old fashion plates such as undergarments. I was thrilled to come across an interesting
 fashion plate from the 1770 - 1780's showing quite a bit of the ladies stocking and the
 ribbon garter she is about to use to anchor her legwear back in place.  

Naturally I wanted to have a bit of fun with the image, so I  created this fun scene 
showing her trying to entice her escort in a peek.

"Trying not to Peek" by EKDuncan using vintage 18th century  fashion plates

A bit about 18th Century Stockings
Since undergarments aka "unmentionables" were not freely discussed or shown in
print for polite society there seems to be a bit of speculation about where a lady would
 "tie" her stockings.
Stocking length of a few inches above the knee seems to be the general concensus on the correct length for a ladies stocking; it is the point of where the garter was placed that seems to be in question. It is widely believed that women used a buckled garter of some type, or a ribbon to tie their stockings off, just below the knee or possibly just above knee.  My guess is a lady would "tie off" at the place that was the most comfortable and that which had the least amount of risk for letting the stocking fall about her feet as she moved about.

Anchoring just below the knee was a benefit since the calf is generally the larger
part of the lower leg and by tying off the stocking just below the knee; the fleshy part
of the calf would assist in keeping the stocking from dropping below that point.  Anchoring
above the knee would require a tighter tying off of the stocking so it would not easily drop
or slide below the knee; however if a stocking was not well "fitted" to your leg this method
would have had a greater chance of falling out of place.

My vote would be for placing my garter below the knee; since this would allow the best 
chance 
that my stockings would not drop to the ground as I walked or moved about.

Risque images and paintings of the time generally show a ladies stocking being tied
off just above the knee or slightly higher.  It is possible that artists did this for the titillation
factor of showing more leg rather than to depict the historically accurate placement of a
\ladies stocking garter.  Elastic and spandax type materials did not exist at this time. Knit
 stockings relaxed and stretched as you moved around causing them to shift which is why
garters were required. Without the advantage of  elasticized garters like those decoratively
\worn in weddings today; the 18th century garter was usually a tied piece of ribbon or a
buckling strap made from leather or decorated cloth.

Note - It was not till laterer in Victorian times that ladies stockings covered higher into the
thigh area due to the garters extending down from the corset itself  rather than encircling
a ladies leg.
Attaching stockings to a garter belt would be the most modern version us 21st
century
ladies would be familiar with; but this was not the case prior to Victorian times - just in
case you were wondering.

Here are a few artistic images showing a ladies stockings and garters from the 
18th century.

Jean-Honoré Fragonard - The Swing 1767
We get a glimpse of ladies stocking, tied off with a ribbon just above the knee.
This is actually a very provocative painting for the period.
Notice where the gent is sitting and just imagine what kind of view he has.
(remember during this period in time women did not wear undies, 
bloomers, pantaloons... I think you get the picture. - grins)


Francois Boucher-La Toilette - Garter 1742
In the above painting we see a lady tying off her stocking above the knee with
a ribbon.  
Notice she does this in a double wrap style around her leg.
Here again this is an artist interpretation of a lady at her toilette.

She is dressing for the day since she still wears a bed jacket and I don't know about you
but I don't think I'd put my shoes on before tying up my stockings. I have to assume a bit
of the titillation factor was the point of this piece considering the provocative placement of
her legs and that she already has her heels on.

Close up of the Stockings and shoes from the above painting "La Toilette" by Francois Boucher
 My previous post "Showing a Bit of Ankle" has several fashion plates where the hemline
on the dresses are at or above the ankle.  Due to this fashion trend of shorter skirts; stockings
and shoes became a more noticeable fashion accessory. More care was taken with these
items since they were easily viewed due to the shorter skirts and considerably more money
was spent in acquiring these items.  Generally a lady would have worn white stockings or
those in a color that matched her ensemble.  Pastels such as pink and powder blue were
very much in favor.


William Hogarth - A Rake's Progress - The Rose Tavern a brothel in Covent Gardens
This is a part of the painting showing one of the "working girls" with her skirts pulled
back
showing her garter and stockings.  These show stockings tied off above the knee as
well as
a bit of exposed thigh to tease the viewer.


(If you are wondering about the "patches" on her face - patches were commonly used
during this time period for a bit of fun and to add beauty marks. They were also frequently
used to disguise marks on a person caused by "the pox" aka syphilis - which was a very
common STD in the 18th - 19th century, especially for prostitutes. It was also one of the
top killers of men at the time.)

On a brighter note - Notice the decoration on her stockings these are referred to as
"clocks" and were an expensive addition to have on your stockings.  These probably
cost
her dearly and so she continues to wear them even-though they have holes and tears in
them.


Mid 18th century Stockings with "clocks", Shoes and French Buckles - Bata Shoe Museum Toronto
Here is an example of actual stockings with fancy clocks as well as shoes and buckles
from close to the time of Marie Antoinette.  Notice the slightly "fitted" look of them in the
calf area.  This should have helped to keep the upper portion of these stockings from
slipping below the the calf.

I'm trying to spot evidence of where they would have tied off but I'm seeing the
possibility
in the areas both above the knee and below; however there seems to be a significant
amount of creasing on the stocking tucked under the top one.  Those bunched up
 creases just above the calf area could be from garter placement below the knee; but
your guess is as good as mine if that is the case.



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Now for the images I used to create my ArtScene  "Trying Not to Peek"

"Trying not to Peek" by EKDuncan using vintage 18th century  fashion plates

I used two french fashion plates from the late 18th Century to create my scene.

Late 18th Century French Fashion Plate
(I flipped and slightly altered this image to use in my scene)
Striped stockings were a high fashion accessory for men at this time this
fashion
plate displays a gentleman all decked out in the latest without crossing the boundaries
into being a "Peacock".

Back in the times of Marie Antoinette a man of extreme fashion would have been
called a "Macaroni" the equivalent in the Regency would have been a "Dandy". 
For
the most part in either time period a man who was refereed to as a "Peacock of Fashion"
was also having his masculinity placed into question, so there was a fine line between
 being a man of fashion and being a peacock.


French Fashion Plate showing a lady about to tie her stockings in place with a ribbon
This is the original late 18th century fashion plate I started with to create the lady
in my "Take a Peek" scene.  I removed her background and then created a variety of
color options to play with.


Here are several png colorized versions I created using the above image.

(Notice the stocking color changes to match each outfit)

png version of the original fashion plate

EKD Periwinkle Version

EKD Rose Version

EKD Green Version - used in the scene

EKD - Purple Version

EKD - Blue Version with Green Feathers

EKD - Grey Version with Purple Feathers

I hope you have enjoyed my take on stockings during this time period
as well as this great image that shows quite a bit of leg for a fashion plate of its day.

I'll be back a little later on with more great French Fashion plates
from the time of Marie Antoinette.

Till then...

Desiree - audio performance in German



http://archive.org/details/Desiree_723



Desiree

  • 25:251 Desiree - deel 01
  • 27:432 Desiree - deel 02
  • 26:513 Desiree - deel 03
  • 27:054 Desiree - deel 04
  • 27:385 Desiree - deel 05
  • 26:066 Desiree - deel 06
  • 27:167 Desiree - deel 07
  • 27:468 Desiree - deel 08
  • 27:239 Desiree - deel 09
  • 26:3210 Desiree - deel 10
  • 26:5811 Desiree - deel 11
  • 27:4712 Desiree - deel 12
  • 27:1113 Desiree - deel 13
  • 25:4014 Desiree - deel 14
  • 27:4015 Desiree - deel 15
  • 26:5116 Desiree - deel 16-Slot
Desiree

Desiree, de dochter van een koopman uit Marseille, is de geliefde van de jonge, ambitieuse Napoleon, die haar echter in de steek laat om met de rijke en politiek invloedrijke Josephine te trouwen.

Desiree wint het hart van Napoleons rivaal Jean Bernadotte en trouwt met hem. Door Napoleon naar Stockholm gestuurd, wint Bernadotte daar het vertrouwen van de kinderloze Zweedse koning, die kort voor zijn dood Bernadotte tot zijn opvolger uitroept.

Als koning van Zweden sluit Bernadotte een alliantie met de Russen, Oostenrijkers en Pruisen, wat Napoleons ondergang betekent.



Rolbezetting
Deel 1
Barbara Hoffman Desiree
Hans Veerman Napoleon
Fe Sciarone Marie
Frans Somers Francois Clary
Betty Kapsenberg madame Clary
Marijke Merckens Julie
Kees Broos Etienne
Bruni Heinke Suzanne
Paul van der Lek Joseph Bonaparte
Piet Ekel een portier

Deel 2
Barbara Hoffman Desiree
Hans Veerman Napoleon
Betty Kapsenberg madame Clary
Marijke Merckens Julie
Kees Broos Etienne
Bruni Heinke Suzanne
Fe Sciarone Marie
Joke Hagelen Paulette
Pieter Groenier Personne
Frans Kokshoorn overste Lefabre
Wik Jongsma postillion
Piet Ekel een sergent

Deel 3
Barbara Hoffman Desiree
Hans Veerman Napoleon
Fe Sciarone Marie
Hans Karsenbarg Bernadotte
Paul van der Lek Joseph Bonaparte
Joke van den Berg madame Tallien
Joop van der Donk een lakei
Guus van der Made Junot
Donald de Marcas Marmon
Jan Wegter Dufaut
Marijke Merckens Julie

Deel 4
Barbara Hoffman Desiree
Hans Veerman Napoleon
Hans Karsenbarg Bernadotte
Paul van der Lek Joseph Bonaparte
Marijke Merckens Julie
Willy Brill Letitia
Joke Hagelen Paulette
Ine Veen Elisa
Els Buitendijk Josephine de Beauharnais
Paul van Gorcum Baras
Jaap Maarleveld Tallerand

Deel 5
Barbara Hoffman Desiree
Hans Veerman Napoleon
Paul van der Lek Joseph Bonaparte
Fe Sciarone Marie
Jan Borkus Fernand
Donald de Marcas Marmon
Marijke Merckens Julie

Deel 6
Barbara Hoffman Desiree
Hans Veerman Napoleon
Paul van der Lek Joseph Bonaparte
Jan Borkus Fernand
Marijke Merckens Julie
Hans Hoekman Lucien
Frans Somers voorzitter van de raad van ouden
Willy Brill Letitia

Deel 7
Barbara Hoffman Desiree
Hans Veerman Napoleon
Wik Jongsma Despraut
Ine Veen Elisa
Joke Hagelen Paulette
Paul van der Lek Joseph Bonaparte
Bep Westerduin Caroline
Jan Wegter Dufaut
Els Buitendijk Josephine de Beauharnais
Fe Sciarone Marie
Olaf Wijnants Oscar
Jan Borkus Fernand
Hans Karsenbarg Bernadotte
Paul van Gorcum de Paus
Willy Brill Letitia

Deel 8
Barbara Hoffman Desiree
Hans Veerman Napoleon
Fe Sciarone Marie
Olaf Wijnants Oscar
Jan Borkus Fernand
Hans Karsenbarg Bernadotte
Willy Brill Letitia
Hans Leendertse een onderwijzer
Willy Ruys Beethoven
Janine Veeren Ortence

Deel 9
Barbara Hoffman Desiree
Hans Karsenbarg Bernadotte
Fe Sciarone Marie
Olaf Wijnants Oscar
Joop Wittemans Meumer
Joop van der Donk graaf Essen
Kees Broos graaf Brahe
Hans Veerman Napoleon
Pieter Groenier een officier
Maria Lindes mademoiselle Coscule

Deel 10
Barbara Hoffman Desiree
Hans Karsenbarg Bernadotte
Fe Sciarone Marie
Kees Broos graaf Brahe
Maria Lindes mademoiselle Coscule
Lies de Wind koningin Charlotte
Fiet Dekker koningin Magdalena
Jan Borkus Fernand
Joke van den Berg gravin Leeuwenhaupt

Deel 11
Barbara Hoffman Desiree
Hans Veerman Napoleon
Fe Sciarone Marie
Josja Hamann Pierre
Gijs de Lange graaf Rosen
Wim de Meyer Vilat
Jaap Maarleveld Talleyrand
Wim Hoddes Fouche
Marijke Merckens Julie
Aletta de Nes Marie Louise
Paul van der Lek Joseph Bonaparte

Deel 12
Barbara Hoffman Desiree
Hans Veerman Napoleon
Fe Sciarone Marie
Josja Hamann Pierre
Gijs de Lange graaf Rosen
Els Buitendijk Josephine de Beauharnais
Donald de Marcas Golencourt
Wim de Meyer een portier
Angelique de Boer een non
Willy Maasdam een non

Deel 13
Barbara Hoffman Desiree
Hans Veerman Napoleon
Fe Sciarone Marie
Hans Karsenbarg Bernadotte
Wim de Meyer Vilat
Gijs de Lange graaf Rosen
Josja Hamann Pierre
Paul van Gorcum Legrand

Deel 14
Barbara Hoffman Desiree
Fe Sciarone Marie
Hans Karsenbarg Bernadotte
Gijs de Lange graaf Rosen
Adriaan Olree een inkoper
Bas ten Batenburg de tsaar
Kees Broos graaf Brahe

Deel 15
Barbara Hoffman Desiree
Fe Sciarone Marie
Wim Hoddes Fouche
Jaap Maarleveld Talleyrand
Gijs de Lange graaf Rosen
Ad Noyons La Fayette
Olaf Wijnants Oscar
Hans Veerman Napoleon

Deel 16
Barbara Hoffman Desiree
Fe Sciarone Marie
Olaf Wijnants Oscar
Willy Maasdam Josephina
Irma Dubois een kinderstem
Jan Borkus Fernand
Pieter Groenier de jonge Pearson
Frans Kokshoorn de oude Pearsen



Delen
Deel 1: De dochter van een zijdekoopman uit Marseille
Deel 2: Ontmoeting met de generaal
Deel 3: Een desillusie
Deel 4: De gelukkigste dag van mijn leven
Deel 5: De vrouw van maarschalk Bernadotte
Deel 6: De Code civil
Deel 7: Mijn vroegere verloofde wordt keizer van Frankrijk
Deel 8: Ontmoeting met Beethoven
Deel 9: Een moeilijk onderhoud met Napoleon
Deel 10: Het is koud in Zweden
Deel 11: Het bondgenootschap met de Tsaar
Deel 12: Rusland
Deel 13 Het antwoord van Bernadotte aan Napoleon
Deel 14: Ik ben toch de dochter van een zijdehandelaar?
Deel 15: De laatste ontmoeting met De´sire´e en Napoleon
Deel 16: Notre-Dame de la Paix

http://www.hoorspelen.eu/Hoorspelen/Hoorspelen%20D/Desiree.htm

Voor een andere hoorspel over Napoleon of de Franse revolutie waarin zowel Napoleon, Talleyrand en Joseph Fouche een rol hebben verwijs ik naar een hoorspel dat ook op deze site staat

http://www.archive.org/details/JosephFouche

Upload naar Archive.org :09-12-2011
Overige informatie
Auteur: Annemarie Selinko
Bewerking: Jan Apon
Regisseur: Hero Muller
Omroep: AVRO
Uitzending: Deel 1 op 28 oktober 1980
Speelduur: 7 uur en 35 minuten, 16 delen
Categorie: Historisch


This audio is part of the collection: Community Audio
It also belongs to collection: 

Artist/Composer: Annemarie Selinko
Keywords: LemmensHoorspelDutchVISIOOTROld time radioHarry MulischDesireeHans VeermanFe SciaroneFrans Somers;Marijke MerckensBrunie HeinkePiet EkelPaul van der LekFrans KokshoornHans KarsenbargJoke HagelenIne VeenEls Buitendijk;Paul van GorcumWilly RuisDonald de Marcas
Creative Commons license: CC0 1.0 Universal

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